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message 1: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (last edited Mar 01, 2022 10:51AM) (new)

Rosemarie | 15160 comments Mod
We are leaving the mountains behind and find ourselves in a small town in the Po valley-The Little World of Don Camillo by Giovannino Guareschi, also known as Giovanni. For some reason, goodreads uses Giovannino as the main link.

There are a number of books about the parish priest, Don Camillo and his flock. His main adversary is the Communist mayor of the town. The books are set in the times after the second world war, when Italian politics was unstable, at best. And time does pass in the later books of the series.
These stories are generally lighthearted but can take a serious turn when they deal with events that happened during the war.


message 2: by Chad (new)

Chad | 860 comments I have a copy and will be reading a few of those tales.


message 3: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

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Great!


message 4: by Lesle, Appalachain Bibliophile (new)

Lesle | 8144 comments Mod
I ordered Comrade Don Camillo. I think it is the middle book.
I have The Little World on a wish list for a hardcover of course :)


message 5: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15160 comments Mod
You'll get an idea of what Don Camillo is like. He has a great sense of humour combined with a no-nonsense attitude.


message 6: by Lesle, Appalachain Bibliophile (last edited Mar 02, 2022 10:40AM) (new)

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It sounds like a fun and enjoyable read! Cannot wait!

I will need this after reading Madame Bovary I believe.


message 7: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15160 comments Mod
It will cleanse your palate! And make you smile.


message 8: by John (new)

John R | 26 comments I'll be joining this one.


message 9: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15160 comments Mod
Great!


message 10: by Melanie (new)

Melanie Anton | 431 comments I would like to read along too. Unfortunately I didn’t plan ahead because it would have been fun to read it in Italian too.


message 11: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

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If you do get a chance to read it in Italian later, it would be great to read your comments, Melanie.


message 12: by Melanie (new)

Melanie Anton | 431 comments Certainly! My library has L'Anno di Don Camillo, which according to 카지노싸이트 is #8 in the series and untranslated. I'll see if I can find one earlier in the series.


message 13: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15160 comments Mod
My library has that one as well and I've placed it on hold. It might take a while to get it since someone has it checked out. I've read a bunch of the earlier books quite a while ago so it will be fun to read some more Don Camillo stories.


message 14: by Gilbert (new)

Gilbert I read this delightful series of novels back in the 1950’s. Considering the time period it was written about and written in, I remember some humor and maybe some not.
But, very enjoyable.


message 15: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

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I'm still waiting for one hold to come in, but since then have placed a hold on a book I'd already read and will be reading that after I pick it up at the library.


message 16: by Lesle, Appalachain Bibliophile (new)

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Lesle wrote: "I ordered Comrade Don Camillo. I think it is the middle book...

It finally showed up yesterday!!
Starting soon!


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Brian E Reynolds | -1131 comments I first read The Little World of Don Camillo as one of three books required by freshman to read in the summer before entrance into my Catholic high school. My memory is that I enjoyed the book as much as any 14-year-old-avid-reading-sports-oriented-Catholic boy could enjoy it.
I reread the book in another GR discussion group in 2019. The book is a series of vignettes, much like a weekly TV series where each episode tells a story but there is also a progression in the characters and their relationships.
On Day 1 I realized that reading too many chapters a day got redundant and that reading one or two chapters a day was more than enough. I made my daily chapters of the book the first thing I read in the morning, after the newspaper. I came to enjoy reading the light humorous vignettes right after watching a morning news program.
The book often brought a smile to my face, much like reading a good comic strip does. Nothing earthshattering, just a simple enjoyable start to my daily reading, enhanced by the nostalgia of the experience.


message 18: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

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I'm glad you found a way to enhance your reading experience, Brian.

Who thought that a 14 year old boy would get much out of this book? It must have been a favourite of the teacher.


message 19: by Brian E (new)

Brian E Reynolds | -1131 comments It was a Catholic school but he was a lay teacher who had been in the Catholic seminary before dropping out. His favorite book was Mr. Blue by the very Catholic and conservative Myles Connolly.
The teacher was very influential on my reading and I had him again in a senior year semester English class on the modern, alienated hero where he assigned us:

Demian by Hermann Hesse
Notes from Underground by Fyodor Dostoevsky
The Trial by Franz Kafka
The Stranger by Albert Camus
Zorba the Greek by Nikos Kazantzakis
A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man by James Joyce
Bread and Wine by Ignazio Silone
Man's Fate by André Malraux

This class expanded my horizons a bit as we were largely assigned American and English works during the earlier high school years. It was better than my college level English lit classes.


message 20: by Lesle, Appalachain Bibliophile (new)

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Lesle wrote: "Lesle wrote: "I ordered Comrade Don Camillo. I think it is the middle book...It finally showed up yesterday!!
Starting soon!"


Oh my goodness! I just started and it is a fun read already!
Quite a character our priest is!


message 21: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15160 comments Mod
He certainly is robust!


message 22: by Lesle, Appalachain Bibliophile (new)

Lesle | 8144 comments Mod
Christ speaking to him is just a voice of reason, but he seems to prefer the devil sitting on his other shoulder speaking to him! (as I shake my head)


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Doris (webgeekstress) | 41 comments Rosemarie wrote: "I'm glad you found a way to enhance your reading experience, Brian.

Who thought that a 14 year old boy would get much out of this book? It must have been a favourite of the teacher."


I was put on to the books at about the same age, but by my mother. She adored the books, and encouraged me to read them. Back in those Cold War years, they offered a glimmer of hope that there might ultimately be some rapprochement. (Not that I much cared for that at 12; I just enjoyed the humor and the relationships.)

I was delighted to see a few years ago that they had been reissued in new translations. And... I have to say that re-reading them has been a different experience. I'm not entirely sure to what extent it's a faulty memory on my part versus the fact that these new editions are also more complete, but the books I remember were "fluffier": the conflicts less serious and the humor more pronounced. As I remember, no one was killed, or even seriously injured, in the older translations. But the tone in these new editions is frequently rather darker.

I still, well "enjoy" is perhaps not the right word, but admire the way in which Guareschi tries to keep things both light and even-handed.


message 24: by Doris (new)

Doris (webgeekstress) | 41 comments Lesle wrote: "Christ speaking to him is just a voice of reason, but he seems to prefer the devil sitting on his other shoulder speaking to him! (as I shake my head)"

“In the play Saint Joan by George Bernard Shaw, Joan of Arc insists that she hears voices that come from God. She is informed by skeptics that the voices come from her imagination. Unmoved, Joan replies, ‘I know, that is how God speaks to me.’”–Celebration of Discipline by Richard J. Foster


Guareschi says himself that the voice of Christ is Christ's voice as he (Guareschi) hears it, and it's my favorite part of the books!


message 25: by Chad (new)

Chad | 860 comments These are just so fun. My favorite bits are also when he talks with Jesus. Too funny.


message 26: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

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Especially when he isn't sure if Jesus approves of his actions.


message 27: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15160 comments Mod
I've found an interesting bit of information in the introduction to the collection I'm reading.
The Don Camillo owe their success to the fact that their author is a procrastinator! He had a deadline for three stories just before
Christmas and not enough time, so he submitted the same story to two papers, just using a larger font in the second one-and that's the one that made Don Camillo a hit.


message 28: by Chad (new)

Chad | 860 comments Sounds like something Don Camillo would do!


message 29: by Lesle, Appalachain Bibliophile (new)

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I finished Comrade Don Camillo over the weekend.

Don Camillo feels a responsibility that seems to drive him.
Throughout the book the Don Camillo often consults with Christ on the Crucifix for guidance which are amusing.
The constant bickering between the Priest and the Communist Senator makes it a witty and enjoyable to read.

Hope to read others in the series.


message 30: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

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I'm glad you enjoyed it, Lesle.


message 31: by Lesle, Appalachain Bibliophile (new)

Lesle | 8144 comments Mod
Thank you Rosemarie for bringing him to light for me. Appreciate it very much!


message 32: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

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I discovered him by accident years ago, and am so glad I did! When I was in Germany quite a few years ago, I discovered that my friend, who used to be my babysitter, likes Don Camillo too.
The books have been translated into many languages.

I'm reading the second Don Camillo collection and some of the stories deal with the elections. And there's usually a little twist at the end. The local communists are not as strict as the higher ups.

Italy had a very unstable government for many years after World War Two, which led to a lot friction between various parties, and the Church.


message 33: by Chad (new)

Chad | 860 comments It seems that Guareschi wrote very little, or even nothing else besides these Don Comillo stories. Is that correct?


message 34: by Doris (new)

Doris (webgeekstress) | 41 comments Chad wrote: "It seems that Guareschi wrote very little, or even nothing else besides these Don Comillo stories. Is that correct?"

No, not even close. The Don Camillo stories are his best known, but he was a prolific journalist as well as a humorist. Even in English, some of his non-Camillo books include
The House That Nino Built
My Secret Diary
A Husband in Boarding School
The Family Guareschi


message 35: by Chad (new)

Chad | 860 comments Thanks!


message 36: by John (new)

John R | 26 comments Finished reading book 1 of The Little World of Don Camillo yesterday. I enjoyed it, but probably not enough to seek out any more of his work.


message 37: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

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They're stories from a different time, but people haven't changed that much.
I'm glad you enjoyed them, John.


message 38: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15160 comments Mod
I'm reading the second book and there are some serious topics covered in a few stories, but most are upbeat. And there is one that is just plain sad. People were very poor after the war and getting enough food was hard for some. Plus, there were some issues remaining from the war, which involved people getting killed-to get even.

The later stories in the book are lighter-Don Camillo helps a school boy escape from boarding school, and my favourite is the story of Ful-the dog who kept coming back until he was finally able to stay.


message 39: by John (new)

John R | 26 comments Interestingly, I preferred on balance the slightly darker stories, where I felt he made his points even better.

Both Communism and the Christian churches now exist largely on the margins, but we still need love, common sense and the ability to laugh at ourselves!


message 40: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

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I've just finished a reread of Don Camillo e il suo gregge/Don Camillo and His Flock which is the second book in the series. It was as good as I remember it being!


message 41: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

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I've just finished L'anno di Don Camillo which dealt with a year in the little word. Time has gone by and people now have televisions and fridges. But they are still dependent on the weather. I really enjoyed this collection of stories.


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